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	<title>Comments on: What About Abortion and the Gays?</title>
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	<description>He&#039;d rather be funny than good!</description>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Loften</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Loften</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 23:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the older I get, both in age and in the Christian faith, we must learn to accentuate the positive.  Jesus loves me this I know.  And, because I know share this wonderful knowledge with hurting people that they would discover that Jesus loves them as well and cleanses their hearts and soul with forgiveness.

But unlike my son, I still get a kick out of a little controversy with others that like it as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the older I get, both in age and in the Christian faith, we must learn to accentuate the positive.  Jesus loves me this I know.  And, because I know share this wonderful knowledge with hurting people that they would discover that Jesus loves them as well and cleanses their hearts and soul with forgiveness.</p>
<p>But unlike my son, I still get a kick out of a little controversy with others that like it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Manatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Manatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 18:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is high time that Christians make a fundamental stand to hate sin, first in their own lives and then in those they love, while at the same time absolutely love the person through the expression of grace.

Grace does not equate permissiveness, but allows us to achieve what I&#039;ve just asked of us - turn away from sin and toward the person.

Then we must have enough faith in His plan for their lives that we resist the urge to play Him in their lives. It is not our job to save people - we have no power over the hearts and wills of another.

The metric for spiritual success is looking more like Christ today than we did yesterday/last month/last year. The job of the church (or a small group leader or a mom/dad or a ____) is to create an environment in which that transformation can take place - free from distraction and full of nurturing encouragement.

You&#039;re where you need to be Charlie - keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is high time that Christians make a fundamental stand to hate sin, first in their own lives and then in those they love, while at the same time absolutely love the person through the expression of grace.</p>
<p>Grace does not equate permissiveness, but allows us to achieve what I&#8217;ve just asked of us &#8211; turn away from sin and toward the person.</p>
<p>Then we must have enough faith in His plan for their lives that we resist the urge to play Him in their lives. It is not our job to save people &#8211; we have no power over the hearts and wills of another.</p>
<p>The metric for spiritual success is looking more like Christ today than we did yesterday/last month/last year. The job of the church (or a small group leader or a mom/dad or a ____) is to create an environment in which that transformation can take place &#8211; free from distraction and full of nurturing encouragement.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re where you need to be Charlie &#8211; keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: cloften</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Greg.  We certainly have lost any sense of what it means to have meaningful conversation on difficult topics.  It&#039;s a shame.  I would love to be able to do this, but what tends to happen is that people are trying to trap you or pigeonhole you.  I don&#039;t want any part of that.  Though in my 20&#039;s, I thought arguing like that was pretty fun.  Definitely matured and grown in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Greg.  We certainly have lost any sense of what it means to have meaningful conversation on difficult topics.  It&#8217;s a shame.  I would love to be able to do this, but what tends to happen is that people are trying to trap you or pigeonhole you.  I don&#8217;t want any part of that.  Though in my 20&#8217;s, I thought arguing like that was pretty fun.  Definitely matured and grown in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.cloften.com/?p=1869&#038;cpage=1#comment-1245</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want my opinion on these topics, you must pass MY litmus test: 1) are you a believer? If not, you can agree with my views, but still be estranged from God; 2) are we sharing life? If not, why do you care what I think?; 3) are you looking to me for help in hearing God&#039;s voice on the subject? If not, I&#039;m not about to serve up a carcass for you to dissect. If you answer yes to all 3, I&#039;ll be happy to share and listen to you so that I can come closer to God&#039;s mind on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want my opinion on these topics, you must pass MY litmus test: 1) are you a believer? If not, you can agree with my views, but still be estranged from God; 2) are we sharing life? If not, why do you care what I think?; 3) are you looking to me for help in hearing God&#8217;s voice on the subject? If not, I&#8217;m not about to serve up a carcass for you to dissect. If you answer yes to all 3, I&#8217;ll be happy to share and listen to you so that I can come closer to God&#8217;s mind on the matter.</p>
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