Comments on: Stuff Christians Need to Stop Saying #5 http://www.cloften.com/?p=670 He'd rather be funny than good! Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:05:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Grobmyer http://www.cloften.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-284 Grobmyer Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:58:12 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=670#comment-284 The bible is full of lessons of moderation as leading to mental and physical health. It is not food that is bad, it's gluttony. It's not rest that is bad, it's sloth. It's not sex that's bad, it's lust and infidelity. It's not drink that is evil itself, it is drunkenness. And it isn't money that's the problem, it's an obsession with it. It's just money. It's just stuff. It will all fade away. I believe that your body is a temple of God, and these are lessons to take care of it, mentally, spiritually, and physically. Understanding this really helps guide you through what is important in life, which saves those marriages you were talking about (I can personally attest to this one!), saves your sanity, and makes you happier, healthier, and wiser. I'm not trying to sound like I have all the answers, but my worldview has been so altered by recent events I want to shout it from the rooftops! The bible is full of lessons of moderation as leading to mental and physical health. It is not food that is bad, it’s gluttony. It’s not rest that is bad, it’s sloth. It’s not sex that’s bad, it’s lust and infidelity. It’s not drink that is evil itself, it is drunkenness. And it isn’t money that’s the problem, it’s an obsession with it. It’s just money. It’s just stuff. It will all fade away. I believe that your body is a temple of God, and these are lessons to take care of it, mentally, spiritually, and physically. Understanding this really helps guide you through what is important in life, which saves those marriages you were talking about (I can personally attest to this one!), saves your sanity, and makes you happier, healthier, and wiser. I’m not trying to sound like I have all the answers, but my worldview has been so altered by recent events I want to shout it from the rooftops!

]]> By: Larry http://www.cloften.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-263 Larry Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:50:25 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=670#comment-263 A point that needs to be preached more often. Our love of wealth and riches in this country, especially among professing Christians has reached epidemic proportions. And the results of this are predictably devastating, both inside and outside the Church. A point that needs to be preached more often. Our love of wealth and riches in this country, especially among professing Christians has reached epidemic proportions. And the results of this are predictably devastating, both inside and outside the Church.

]]> By: Aaron Reddin http://www.cloften.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-258 Aaron Reddin Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:50:42 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=670#comment-258 My great granny always said that "if money's the root of all evil, just gimmie some more root!!!" Bless her soul lol My great granny always said that “if money’s the root of all evil, just gimmie some more root!!!”

Bless her soul lol

]]> By: David Hicks http://www.cloften.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-253 David Hicks Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:31:49 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=670#comment-253 Good points. Especially about "A root of ALL KINDS of evil." And also how we use such a verse to distance ourselves from the real issue. The issue is not money itself, never was. Not even wealth. This "love of money" passage is a leadership issue that Paul was advising Timothy on. Sticking to the context, he was talking about renegade leaders who build personal followings and live off them. And the ensuing division, distortion and ruin. Just a few verses later, Paul takes a very positive stance with Timothy on how to disciple believers who happen to be rich. If money itself was the root problem, or even the time and energy it takes to be "rich in this world", I'd think his advice would be very different. When I unpack this section in one of my seminars, it's so much fun to watch the burden lift from people's thinking! Good points. Especially about “A root of ALL KINDS of evil.”
And also how we use such a verse to distance ourselves from the real issue.

The issue is not money itself, never was. Not even wealth. This “love of money” passage is a leadership issue that Paul was advising Timothy on. Sticking to the context, he was talking about renegade leaders who build personal followings and live off them. And the ensuing division, distortion and ruin.

Just a few verses later, Paul takes a very positive stance with Timothy on how to disciple believers who happen to be rich. If money itself was the root problem, or even the time and energy it takes to be “rich in this world”, I’d think his advice would be very different.

When I unpack this section in one of my seminars, it’s so much fun to watch the burden lift from people’s thinking!

]]> By: El Davo http://www.cloften.com/?p=670&cpage=1#comment-248 El Davo Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:14:01 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=670#comment-248 The love of gold is the stem of all sorts of evil. The love of gold is the stem of all sorts of evil.

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