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	<title>Comments on: Stuff Christians Need to Stop Saying #7</title>
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		<title>By: cloften</title>
		<link>http://www.cloften.com/?p=696&#038;cpage=1#comment-302</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Chris, indeed.

Some questions for the Christian political activists out there:

1)Where does our hope truly lie?  In a political party?  If ________ could get elected, our country will have hope.  If the _________ party can keep/regain Congress, then we will do well.  How does the message of Romans 13 compare to the great anxiety we feel when &quot;we&quot; lose?

2)Is God preferential to one political party over another?  Does God&#039;s light shine brighter on one party over the other?  Does one party encapsulate what the Bible teaches?  If not, then why would we so strongly align ourselves with that party and then proclaim that most Christians are/should be _______?

3) If a Christian were to get involved with politics heavily, should he/she be a humble servant or angry prophet or both depending on the time and issue?

4) Is the Bible a weapon in political debates? Do we do a disservice to claim the Bible supports an issue clearly when it is typically more complex than, &quot;read this one verse here?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Chris, indeed.</p>
<p>Some questions for the Christian political activists out there:</p>
<p>1)Where does our hope truly lie?  In a political party?  If ________ could get elected, our country will have hope.  If the _________ party can keep/regain Congress, then we will do well.  How does the message of Romans 13 compare to the great anxiety we feel when &#8220;we&#8221; lose?</p>
<p>2)Is God preferential to one political party over another?  Does God&#8217;s light shine brighter on one party over the other?  Does one party encapsulate what the Bible teaches?  If not, then why would we so strongly align ourselves with that party and then proclaim that most Christians are/should be _______?</p>
<p>3) If a Christian were to get involved with politics heavily, should he/she be a humble servant or angry prophet or both depending on the time and issue?</p>
<p>4) Is the Bible a weapon in political debates? Do we do a disservice to claim the Bible supports an issue clearly when it is typically more complex than, &#8220;read this one verse here?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
		<link>http://www.cloften.com/?p=696&#038;cpage=1#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Chris.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...we Christians need not dirty our hands in the mess of political issues? Politics is the realm of man and not God- so God has no part in the matter?  It seems to me that this argument too often breaks down into a sort of political moral relativism- a sort of &quot;who&#039;s to say what&#039;s &#039;right&#039; or &#039;wrong&#039; when it comes to political matters?&quot; And throw in a Rodney King-esque &quot;Can&#039;t we all just get along?&quot; So, Christians can have a viewpoint - and even express it.  But when it comes to the point that a fuss starts being made- well then we better pipe down- after all, in the grand scheme of things- eternally- is it really that important?  So let&#039;s not make unneccessary waves...  So the people who persist and eventually win the day are those who DON&#039;T care about God&#039;s perspective.  And those are the people who should decide for a local, state, or nationial government what does and does not happen?  

Like it or not we don&#039;t live in Roman occupied Palestine in the first century AD.  We live in a constitutional, representative republic- founded by Godly, courageous men and women who risked everything, fought, and died that we might chart our own course in life, living in and taking full opportunity of the God-given freedoms we possess by virtue of our mere existence in His image.  Those freedoms have allowed the US to become not only the greatest economic and military power the world has ever known, but also the greatest missionary-sending nation and provider of aid in the name of God and human decency - both of which DO have significant eternal impact.  So while we guard this stewardship of freedom, we protect something, I believe, very precious and worth fighting for.  Even if it makes us unpopular.  To do anything less than to seek to understand the implications of political issues, try to gain a Biblical perspective on them, and then defend and attempt to advance those positions that are both expedient to the cause of Christ and Constitutionally (and therefore legally) permissable is negligence and an abdication of our God-given responsibilities.  

How&#039;s THAT for controversial, Charlie?? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;we Christians need not dirty our hands in the mess of political issues? Politics is the realm of man and not God- so God has no part in the matter?  It seems to me that this argument too often breaks down into a sort of political moral relativism- a sort of &#8220;who&#8217;s to say what&#8217;s &#8216;right&#8217; or &#8216;wrong&#8217; when it comes to political matters?&#8221; And throw in a Rodney King-esque &#8220;Can&#8217;t we all just get along?&#8221; So, Christians can have a viewpoint &#8211; and even express it.  But when it comes to the point that a fuss starts being made- well then we better pipe down- after all, in the grand scheme of things- eternally- is it really that important?  So let&#8217;s not make unneccessary waves&#8230;  So the people who persist and eventually win the day are those who DON&#8217;T care about God&#8217;s perspective.  And those are the people who should decide for a local, state, or nationial government what does and does not happen?  </p>
<p>Like it or not we don&#8217;t live in Roman occupied Palestine in the first century AD.  We live in a constitutional, representative republic- founded by Godly, courageous men and women who risked everything, fought, and died that we might chart our own course in life, living in and taking full opportunity of the God-given freedoms we possess by virtue of our mere existence in His image.  Those freedoms have allowed the US to become not only the greatest economic and military power the world has ever known, but also the greatest missionary-sending nation and provider of aid in the name of God and human decency &#8211; both of which DO have significant eternal impact.  So while we guard this stewardship of freedom, we protect something, I believe, very precious and worth fighting for.  Even if it makes us unpopular.  To do anything less than to seek to understand the implications of political issues, try to gain a Biblical perspective on them, and then defend and attempt to advance those positions that are both expedient to the cause of Christ and Constitutionally (and therefore legally) permissable is negligence and an abdication of our God-given responsibilities.  </p>
<p>How&#8217;s THAT for controversial, Charlie?? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Loftin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen Loftin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked by this post, actually. I have never heard a person say Jesus is a (insert political party here).  But if it goes on well then it should stop. God tried to convince Israel to be a Theocracy I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked by this post, actually. I have never heard a person say Jesus is a (insert political party here).  But if it goes on well then it should stop. God tried to convince Israel to be a Theocracy I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally. I&#039;ve been saying this to some of my &quot;politically savvy&quot; friends that pull the Jesus card all the time. I definitely agree with you here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally. I&#8217;ve been saying this to some of my &#8220;politically savvy&#8221; friends that pull the Jesus card all the time. I definitely agree with you here.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Charlie!  I second Larry&#039;s sentiments...</description>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  This has become a particular pet peeve of mine in the past few years.  The truth is that Jesus cared about people, and He was basically apolitical (much to his disciples initial disappointment).  Biblical ideals are expressed by various positions in both parties, and a great many non-political positions as well. God is not a republican or a democrat - a capitalist or a socialist. He is Almighty God. Politics is the business of man - not of God. A person&#039;s political affiliation has nothing to do with their faith or lack thereof.  

We are citizens of the Kingdom of heaven, simply passing through on our way home, doing good works in God&#039;s name on the way.  Everything else is just noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  This has become a particular pet peeve of mine in the past few years.  The truth is that Jesus cared about people, and He was basically apolitical (much to his disciples initial disappointment).  Biblical ideals are expressed by various positions in both parties, and a great many non-political positions as well. God is not a republican or a democrat &#8211; a capitalist or a socialist. He is Almighty God. Politics is the business of man &#8211; not of God. A person&#8217;s political affiliation has nothing to do with their faith or lack thereof.  </p>
<p>We are citizens of the Kingdom of heaven, simply passing through on our way home, doing good works in God&#8217;s name on the way.  Everything else is just noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a breath of fresh air. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a breath of fresh air. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Grimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy Grimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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