Comments on: Stuff Christians Need to Stop Saying #8 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703 He'd rather be funny than good! Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:05:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Zach http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-316 Zach Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:23:56 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-316 Charlie. I'm a huge fan of your band and you just played my favorite song. Probably. Charlie.

I’m a huge fan of your band and you just played my favorite song.

Probably.

]]> By: Faye http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-313 Faye Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:50:45 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-313 @El Davo - You ROCK! If someone is going to stiff a server, PLEASE don't let them even begin to think you're a follower of Christ! I haven't done it in awhile, but I used to quite frequently place a tract on the table that started with "Thank you" and would put about a 25% to 30% tip in it. I have been a server and have friends who do that for a living. People don't realize they make about $2.25 per hour and their tips are supposed to make up the rest of the minimum wage. And the guy buying whiskey -- that's on him, man! I'm just giving like Jesus said to. Let him answer for what he did with it. Charlie, thank you! I do agree with @Judy Best -- we sometimes show them how to find the Truth, we guide them to the resources, we don't become the resource. But we have to do it with love, mercy and grace. And the thing is, we can't just stop because they don't get it. We just open up and give again. And again. One warning I would give, though -- even Jesus took time out to be refilled, refueled and stay connected to the Father. If HE had to do that in order to minister to people, I need to do it more. A lot more. @El Davo – You ROCK! If someone is going to stiff a server, PLEASE don’t let them even begin to think you’re a follower of Christ! I haven’t done it in awhile, but I used to quite frequently place a tract on the table that started with “Thank you” and would put about a 25% to 30% tip in it. I have been a server and have friends who do that for a living. People don’t realize they make about $2.25 per hour and their tips are supposed to make up the rest of the minimum wage.

And the guy buying whiskey — that’s on him, man! I’m just giving like Jesus said to. Let him answer for what he did with it.

Charlie, thank you! I do agree with @Judy Best — we sometimes show them how to find the Truth, we guide them to the resources, we don’t become the resource. But we have to do it with love, mercy and grace. And the thing is, we can’t just stop because they don’t get it. We just open up and give again. And again.

One warning I would give, though — even Jesus took time out to be refilled, refueled and stay connected to the Father. If HE had to do that in order to minister to people, I need to do it more. A lot more.

]]> By: Aaron Reddin http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-311 Aaron Reddin Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:42:28 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-311 I can't take credit for this, nor can I give it because I forgot where it came from. But you can see this statement clearly all through the gospels. "If people aren't taking advantage of you, then you probably aren't living like Jesus." Think about how many people rushed him to have their personal, practical, and immediate needs met. They weren't screaming, "Hey! There's the dude with living water!" They said things like, "If I could just touch the hem of his garment" It was about them. Their needs. How could we think that Jesus didn't know this? Yet, he gave and healed abundantly. No prerequisites. No applications. Just, "here you go". I can’t take credit for this, nor can I give it because I forgot where it came from. But you can see this statement clearly all through the gospels.

“If people aren’t taking advantage of you, then you probably aren’t living like Jesus.”

Think about how many people rushed him to have their personal, practical, and immediate needs met.

They weren’t screaming, “Hey! There’s the dude with living water!”

They said things like, “If I could just touch the hem of his garment”

It was about them. Their needs. How could we think that Jesus didn’t know this? Yet, he gave and healed abundantly. No prerequisites. No applications. Just, “here you go”.

]]> By: El Davo Grande http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-310 El Davo Grande Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:44:35 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-310 Yeah, I get what you're saying, but what about how the Bible says that homeless dudes are going to only buy whiskey and we shouldn't give them anything but a Bible tract? I think it's the verse right after the one explaining not giving your waiter/waitress a gratuity more than 10% because that's how much a tithe is, so you shouldn't give them more than you give God. Plus, you should give them a Bible tract that looks like money to show them how Christians care. Yeah, I get what you’re saying, but what about how the Bible says that homeless dudes are going to only buy whiskey and we shouldn’t give them anything but a Bible tract? I think it’s the verse right after the one explaining not giving your waiter/waitress a gratuity more than 10% because that’s how much a tithe is, so you shouldn’t give them more than you give God. Plus, you should give them a Bible tract that looks like money to show them how Christians care.

]]> By: Judy Best http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-309 Judy Best Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:10:10 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-309 I know that statement isn't true, but loving, serving, and helping, whether it's our kids or someone in need, sometimes means pointing them in the right direction and getting them started in that direction. It doesn't always mean doing or giving what's asked ... and that is the same way God loves us many times. I know that statement isn’t true, but loving, serving, and helping, whether it’s our kids or someone in need, sometimes means pointing them in the right direction and getting them started in that direction. It doesn’t always mean doing or giving what’s asked … and that is the same way God loves us many times.

]]> By: cloften http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-308 cloften Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:02:09 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-308 Adam, Thanks? Cloften Adam,

Thanks?

Cloften

]]> By: Adam of Team Synergy http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-307 Adam of Team Synergy Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:41:29 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-307 Anatomy of this series: Paragraph 1: "Oh, no we're doing it again." Charlie riffs on 80s pop culture references and pokes the fun at crappy sequels to the sound of pleasant internet golf clap from the Fellowship gallery. Then he makes some point about how this series has got to be getting old and then abruptly transitions to the point. Insert: said phrase Christians need to stop saying Following paragraphs: That's not in the Bible. Jesus loves everybody and we should too. Ending Tag: leave room for another sequel. Charlie, it's like an episode of House... very formulaic. But guess what... I love House. Keep 'em coming boss. Anatomy of this series:

Paragraph 1: “Oh, no we’re doing it again.” Charlie riffs on 80s pop culture references and pokes the fun at crappy sequels to the sound of pleasant internet golf clap from the Fellowship gallery. Then he makes some point about how this series has got to be getting old and then abruptly transitions to the point.

Insert: said phrase Christians need to stop saying

Following paragraphs: That’s not in the Bible. Jesus loves everybody and we should too.

Ending Tag: leave room for another sequel.

Charlie, it’s like an episode of House… very formulaic. But guess what… I love House. Keep ‘em coming boss.

]]> By: Chris http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-306 Chris Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:27:11 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-306 I think it was Ben Franklin who originally said that....it's also reported that he said "beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy"- but I've read that that one is actually a misquote... I think it was Ben Franklin who originally said that….it’s also reported that he said “beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy”- but I’ve read that that one is actually a misquote…

]]> By: Megan http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-305 Megan Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:04:54 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-305 I'm curious where this phrase came from. It's terribly humanistic. It enforces the boot-strap Christianity that is so prevalent in our culture (that we do the work of our salvation, with God's help of course, and that we've earned it by our hard work). I can hardly imagine any message more damaging to the gospel than that we can earn God's gift. Have you addressed the "I believe everything happens for a reason" phrase yet? I hope you do because I'd really love to read that one too. I’m curious where this phrase came from. It’s terribly humanistic. It enforces the boot-strap Christianity that is so prevalent in our culture (that we do the work of our salvation, with God’s help of course, and that we’ve earned it by our hard work). I can hardly imagine any message more damaging to the gospel than that we can earn God’s gift.

Have you addressed the “I believe everything happens for a reason” phrase yet? I hope you do because I’d really love to read that one too.

]]> By: Brado http://www.cloften.com/?p=703&cpage=1#comment-304 Brado Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:01:26 +0000 http://www.cloften.com/?p=703#comment-304 FINALLY a shout-out to "Police Academy"! FINALLY a shout-out to “Police Academy”!

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