Laying Out a Fleece (and other bad ideas)
January 24, 2011 by cloften
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Have you ever heard of someone laying out a fleece? It is perhaps the most insider church jargon of all time (well, maybe something about the balm in Gilead might beat it). People often use that expression as if it is a common expression. The expression comes from the story of Gideon. (Read here) In the story, God clearly speaks to Gideon and tells him that Gideon will lead Israel in a victorious battle. When I say speaks, what I mean is God speaks, you know like with talking and hearing. This was no inner-prompting or assurance, like we deal with.
God clearly speaks but Gideon is not convinced that God will give him victory, so he puts out a fleece (think piece of wool, not light jacket) on the ground and asks God if God “really” wants him to do it, then only the fleece will be wet with dew the next morning, and not the ground around it. God does it, graciously. Then the next day, Gideon does it again but in reverse. This time the fleece has to be dry but there is dew everywhere else. God again meets the request, graciously.
So in Christian Jargonese, laying out a fleece has become a way of confirming God’s will. However, that story should be thought of as a story of fear and a lack of trust in God. God said it, with words, out loud. What further confirmation was needed.
Compare this with our man, Nehemiah. He believed that God wanted him to rebuild the wall of Jerusalem, with no audible voice. He prayed and then by faith seized the opportunity when it came. Too often we are gripped with fear, not because we are not sure about what God wants, but because we are not sure we want what God wants. “What if it doesn’t work?” “What if I look stupid trying to do this?” “I need to KNOW that God is going to make this work.”
We need to stop kidding ourselves, it’s not confirmation that we need, it is trust to follow after God.
Am I being too tough? Fine, we can start laying fleeces. But do it in the opposite way of Gideon. Don’t do it where God has to do a miracle if he wants you to take a risk, but he has to do the miracle if he doesn’t.
Here is the “fleece” you can use. “God if you DON’T want me to do (crazy, faith-filled scheme) then bring a monkey to my front door carrying a rubber chicken, and have him tell me in Pig-Latin that you don’t want me to do it. Otherwise I am going to (crazy, life-changing, fulfilling, best thing you’ve ever done faith-filled scheme).”
Or you can just trust God and go do it.
Why wait? (Nehemiah 2 Preview)
January 21, 2011 by cloften
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As we are getting ready for this Sunday, there is something that I want us all to think about–waiting. Waiting patiently is, shall we say, not a strength of the modern American culture. No judgment here, few things irk me more than pulling up to a gas station only to discover that they don’t have pay at the pump. What? You want me to walk all the way inside and pay someone. What is that going to take, like 90 seconds or something?
Nonetheless, whether we like it or not, we always have to wait. If you live with three women, you know what I’m talking about. (Probably shouldn’t have said that) Let’s put this in a spiritual context. What if God were to tell you that he wanted you to do something, how soon do you expect it to happen? My guess is the honest answer is immediately, or at least as soon as possible.
What about our man Nehemiah? It was four months. They may not seem like a long time. Well, it doesn’t seem like a long time, if it’s someone else. However, 120 days of waiting for God to do what you believe he said he would do is a long time. We have no idea how many “crises of faith” he had. We would probably have a lot. We would question ourselves as to whether or not we “heard” right and question God as to whether or not he really would do what he said.
What is the point of waiting? Why doesn’t God just do it already? What is God doing and why?
Welcome to Nehemiah chapter 2. See you Sunday (or listen online after Sunday night here)
Where do I find it? (Nehemiah 1 follow up)
January 17, 2011 by cloften
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I will try (keyword: try) to post something every Monday after each week of the Nehemiah series. Most of these topics that we will talk about on Sunday morning could be its own series. There is so much that could be said, but no one wants to hang out there until 4. So, I’ll drop a thought or two here.
We talked a lot about the passion and calling that Nehemiah had. I believe that God has given each one of us a call. This call comes from our strengths, skills, gifts and passions. Some people wonder how they can find their calling. How do you know? Is it some supernatural moment? Does it come from some internal tingling? Will God send you a Twitter message? “I’m serving and I enjoy it, but I don’t know if it rises to the level of ‘calling.’”
Here are some thoughts:
1) Don’t wait for some mystical confirmation or finding the ideal place to serve to start serving. Maybe your passion is going to be children’s ministry, maybe it’s not. You won’t find out by not serving or taking some gifting/passion inventory. You will find out by serving in the children’s ministry. Serve somewhere. Serve in your church. Respond to some ministry’s need in the community. Go work with Habitat for a day. Go feed the homeless. Do something. You aren’t going to think your way to your best fit. You will serve your way there.
2) There is no such thing as a big call and a small call. All calls come from God. By definition, they are all big. Better that someone respond to God’s call to a simple behind the scene’s ministry than feel like they have to do something. Some people’s passion and calling is in the nursery with small babies. These are tremendous servants who not only love precious babies but allow parents to worship freely and know that their baby is being loved on and cared for. If god is the one leading and directing, that is not a downgrade from missionary in 3rd world country.
3) Serving is meant to be enjoyable. Often we associate serving in the church with a workout. “You know you did it right if you didn’t enjoy it and it hurts afterward.” God has designed you to use your gifts. When you do, God will bless you and you will be very glad that you did.”
4) Pressure + Guilt = Calling. While that is the typical formula. I disagree. Passion + Gifts + Opportunity = Calling
Get out there. Find a place where God can use you. Pray. Ask God to show you your passions and gifts. Ask friends.
Expect God to do amazing things.
Old Testament History (In 20 minutes)
January 10, 2011 by cloften
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As we were preparing for a series in Nehemiah, we began to wonder how familiar people are with the book of Nehemiah and OT history. We began to ask around and determined that there are a lot of people who aren’t familiar. So we decided to take a week and intro the book by giving the history of the OT up to that point. That was definitely a different kind of message for me, but I hope that it helped some people.
Sometimes I think that we are too embarassed to admit that we don’t know the Bible that well, because “we should already know it.” How can we already know it, if we don’t teach it. So, here it is.
Listen to that message here.
Blessed to Be a Blessing: The Nehemiah Prequel
January 3, 2011 by cloften
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Well, it is a new year. A friend of mine declared that he would like us to drop the “20″ when saying what year it is. So, it is now “11″ not “20-11.” I agree. However, it will be hard for us. Except for a few of Willard Scott’s friends (Boom! Dated reference! Wait, does he still do that?), none of us have changed centuries before. I wonder if William McKinley passed an edict about when to drop the 19 (Boom! Very dated reference! By that, I mean no one knows the old presidents) Do we all agree? 11? Can we agree on 11? Anyone other than me thinking about Spinal Tap? This kind of rambly nonsense is what you should expect at least until February.
If there had not been a title, and all you had read was that intro, you would have no idea what this is supposed to be about. It was my idea, and I forgot…Oh, yeah.
We are starting a series in Nehemiah this Sunday at the Grove Church. I do not want to assume that everyone knows who Nehemiah is or why he is wanting to build a wall or how/why the wall fell down in the first place. As such we will spend the first week, in part, talking about the background of the book of Nehemiah. This way when we start the book, we can understand better what’s going on. To do this, we will go way back in the Old Testament, all the way back to Genesis.
The first and perhaps most important concept is about the Jewish people in general. They were called God’s Chosen People. What does that mean? Chosen for what?
Genesis 12:1-3
1 The LORD had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.
2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
God calls Abraham (I know, Abram. Let’s not be ticky, ok? says the king of ticky) and says that He is going to bless him. Why is God blessing him? He is blessing him so that God can bless the whole world through Abraham. God didn’t bless Abraham just to bless him. There was a purpose. God wanted to raise up a nation, his nation. This way the world would see them and know that the God of Abraham and the Jewish people was not just a god, but the God. Then as people saw that, they would choose to give up their god, and follow the God.
The Old Testament after that is the history of that relationship. When the Jewish people follow God, he blesses them tremendously and the world takes notice.
We will talk more about this on Sunday and how this history plays out that leads us to Nehemiah. However, I’d like for us to take a moment to think about the concept of blessed to be a blessing. God blessed Abraham so that through Abraham all nations would be blessed. Question: Why do you think that God has blessed you? Is it because you’re his favorite? God has blessed you so that through you, he can bless others. If he has blessed you with money, then you need to bless others with it. If he has blessed you with gifts and talents, then you need to share those with others.
God loves to bless us, but it was never meant to stop there. We need to recognize that God has blessed us so that we can bless others. Let this year be the year we bless others with what God has blessed us. Twenty-eleven, the year of being blessed to be a blessing (oops, I meant ‘11)
Champions!
December 13, 2010 by cloften
Filed under Bible, Church and Leadership, Family and Parenting
I’m pretty sure that I’ve talked about this before. (Well, I know that I’ve talked about it. The question is have I written about it, which, again, I’m pretty sure that I have) Regardless, it bares repeating, especially since understanding this is a big next step for us at the Grove Church. We talked about this at the town hall meeting. (I know at least three of you are wondering why I stopped writing about the town hall. It was surprising to me how unmotivated I have been to write something that I have already said. My bad.)
For too often churches have “recruited volunteers.” This has historically done by passing around clipboards and asking people to “fill a slot.” If there is a less inspirational vision for getting people to serve in church, I have never heard it.
“If you will become a slot on my spreadsheet, then you will be able to shut me up about needing to fill slots on my spreadsheet.”
What the church needs are not people who feel obligated to do something that someone else tells them is important. What the church needs are people who believe that they are called by God to serve and to lead, to own the ministry where they serve. We don’t need people motivated by guilt–external or internal.
Everyone is gifted by God to serve. There are unique talents and passions that you have. God wants to use those to serve and minister to people around you. Unfortunately, leaders can often just recruit/beg/arm-twist people into doing things that the leader is passionate about. That is a short-term motivator, which is the reason why they are always passing the clipboard around.
If you are at the Grove Church, you have heard me speak very passionately about the need to love and serve our kids. This isn’t to motivate those who don’t want to serve kids, but hopefully inspire those that do want to serve. We need people who love kids, feel called to love and serve them.
We don’t want it to end there. We don’t want you serving the church’s ministry. We need people who want to partner and lead. This is our ministry, and “our” doesn’t mean the church’s, it means you and the church. We need you to own the ministry that you serve in. Tell us and show us how to make it better. Be creative, take risks.
I know that often the church has not good a job making people feel like they can be creative and take risks. If you are a church leader and you are reading this, stop doing that. If you are the only leader, then the ministry will only be as a good as you. If you let other leaders lead, then it can be as good as the giftings and strengths of all of you.
This doesn’t simply apply to kid’s ministry. We need people like this with students, hospitality, tech, the list goes on and on. This is a great time in the history of the Grove (and hopefully your church as well). To get to where the church needs to go next, we need you to believe that you have great value to add, are incredibly gifted, and we need you to use those gifts.
Not just to fill a slot but to be a champion.
Grove Town Hall Part 2
December 2, 2010 by cloften
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Hmm, didn’t you say part 2 would come “tomorrow” which would have been “two days ago” which would have been “Tuesday?” Yes, yes, but I have a busy life. It’s tough only working one day a week. That’s how pastor’s are right?
Anywho, on with more from the Town Hall:
The elders got away for an overnight retreat. We spent a good portion of our time talking about our mission statement. What is it that God has called the Grove to be and do? What are our values? What makes the Grove, the Grove? (That’s a sentence that makes more sense when you say it with the right inflection. What makes the Grove, THE GROVE? Written, it looks ridiculous).
As we began to think about what God has called us to, there are two passages that we believe God was bringing to the front of our discussions. The first is the Great Commandment:
Matthew 22
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
The second is the Great Commission:
Matthew 28
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
From these two passages we understand that the most important things that we can do as believers, and ultimately as a church as well, is to love God with all that we are and love others the way we love ourselves.
God has called us first and foremost to people who worship. By this, we don’t mean simply singing worship songs, but in addition to that we need to live lives that show our love, gratitude and devotion to God.
The best way that we can show our love for others is by serving them and helping them have and develop a deep relationship with God. We need to reach people who are separated from God. Apart from a relationship with Jesus, people are lost and in desperate need of God. He is calling us to be a church that is building relationships with non-Christians and sharing and showing our faith to them so that they can come to know him.
We also need to help people grow in their relationship with God. We can go deeper with God, understand and know him better, love him more. Being a Christian is not about “getting saved” and then living life in anticipation of eternal life after we die. It is living that life now (John 10:10).
Grow to what end though? Sometimes we feel like we grow just to grow. God, however, is calling us take what we have and give it to others. We need to be a church that sends people into the world to love and serve them. God has uniquely gifted and impassioned each of us. He wants us to use those gifts and passions to help reach the world for Jesus Christ. We need to help people find those gifts and passions and then help them figure out the best place and way to use them.
Putting those four words (Worship, Reach, Grow, Send) together is the beginning of a mission statement. We have not crafted it together into an incredibly pithy and memorable and awe-inspiring statement yet, but when we do, look out! It will be centered around those 2 passages and those 4 words. We believe that this is what God has called us to at the Grove Church.
Talk to you again tomorrow (wink, wink)
Grove Town Hall Part 1
November 29, 2010 by cloften
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Well, I was gone from just about everything for a week. When I got back, I discovered that the audio from the Town Hall meeting was no good. Like Kip (would his last name be Dynamite as well?), I do love technology. But sometimes it is problematic. So, we shall remedy this by using other technology to get it to you. The more I think about it though, this is probably better for you. I would rather read a series of blog posts than listen to me talk for an hour. That’s because I think my voice is annoying. I’m sure you do as well. Thanks for your patience.
Anywho, I will take some time this week and put different themes we talked about here on the old blog. This way, if you weren’t there, you can catch up. First, of course, you need to see this video–Have you been to the Grove? We opened the Town Hall with that. Now that I have lowered your expectations, here is the first part of what we talked about:
More than anything, I really want to thank everyone for how kind everyone has been in our transition. It’s not easy making a move like this, especially with 12 and 9 (now 10 and almost 13) year old girls. You have loved us well and we have loved getting to know you guys. With the exception of our house not selling, this transition has gone about as well as it could. Everyone in our family has very quickly felt a part of the Grove Church.
I have also enjoyed building relationships with the elders and staff. I have always believed that one of the foundational pieces to a healthy church is the relationship among the staff and elders. Thankfully this has not been hard work. It has been easy and a lot of fun to be able to get to know these great men and women, and I believe fairly quickly we have been able to become good friends.
The last four months (That’s right, it has only been 4 months. Actually, it won’t be 4 months until Wednesday, but who’s counting?) have been an exciting time for the church as well. We have seen an attendance growth of about 70% from the same time last year. I know that it has been a hard year for the Grove and that is was a difficult transition. I hope that it feels good to have some good momentum in the church.
We also have relaunched a youth (I know you are supposed to call it student ministry, but I get that confused with college students, so for now, youth it is) ministry. We have started small, because that is what we are right now. We have a guys small group and a girls small group. Big thanks to Ty Carlson and Leah Burry for getting those kicked off. They are both huge answers to prayer.
We have also seen a tremendous growth in the number of college students coming to the Grove. Several people have asked me what we have done to see so many college students this fall. The assumption has been that there must have been some kind of intentional strategy or recruitment campaign. There hasn’t been. I invited a handful of students that came from Fellowship Bible in Little Rock and that’s it. What has happened has been an example of the power of enthusiasm and word of mouth. Students have been bringing students. I believe we have created an worship environment with quality music, friendly people and a relational teaching style that has been very attractive to college students. BTW, this style is also very attractive to families and singles. It’s just that word of mouth and enthusiasm moves much quicker among students. As of now, we do not have a formal college ministry. We have a few small groups and we are planning perhaps quarterly events (we have had a lunch so far). We want to start slowly.
This is a ministry principle that we are using everywhere. Let’s do one thing well before trying to do two things well. We don’t want to try to do every ministry possible. Also, let’s not try and do everything imaginable within ministries, like children’s, youth, etc. Let’s do the core well first and then do the next thing well.
Well, part one has been mostly update. Later to come, we will talk about our facility challenges, our financial situation, getting to the next level in the Greenhouse/kids ministry and most importantly the process we are in crafting a new mission statement. Talk to you tomorrow.
Town Hall Video (Must See)
November 21, 2010 by cloften
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In case you missed or just don’t go to the Grove, here it is. Or if you were there and just need to see it again:
No Weak Men!
October 11, 2010 by cloften
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Well, just got back from the Men’s Retreat. Learned something very important. Don’t play football with guys 10-15 yrs younger than you when you are out of shape. Two days later you can barely walk. Write that down. It may be the best thing you ever learn on cloften.com.
I thought that the retreat was great. It has been a long time since I’ve gotten away for a time like that. Very glad that is already part of the Grove culture. I also enjoyed speaking. I definitely want to get to know the men in our church better. (For example, I now know with whom I should never play football. Just kidding. Not really.) I also believe that is very important for men to get away and talk about how we can be better men. I know my small group had some great discussion and I heard that the others did as well.
Over the next couple of weeks, I want to put some of the info that we talked about on the ol’ blog to get it to more men, both in the church and outside and to keep it fresh in our heads for those of us who were there.
The overarching theme of what we talked about is how too often men fall into one of two categories, both of them bad. The first is the passive man who is just watching life happen. He is not taking any leadership in his own life or his family. For a husband it looks like a man who has a wife that is in charge of the finances, the house, the kids, big picture decisions, spiritual direction and the husband is in charge of making sure his chair is pointed at the TV, remote control management and snack consumption. He lives life avoiding responsibility and conflict.
Then there is the man who would read that paragraph and say, “You’re right. I don’t want to be a puddin’! It’s time to be a man!” Then he becomes an obnoxious wrecking ball. Overbearing, insensitive, bully kind of leader. He makes unilateral decisions, typically not based on what is best, but what he deems best, often for himself. He calls aggression discipline and dictatorship leadership. From puddin’ to jerk. Actually this jerk is just a puddin’ in a halloween mask. He is still a man without the courage to lead and love appropriately.
Unfortunately most men, only know avoiding responsibility and being a punk. Doesn’t there have to be a better option? Jesus gave his disciples (and us) one in Matthew 20.
25Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. 26Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 27and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— 28just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
A servant leader. We will look at this passage more in depth over the next couple of weeks. For now, I leave you with this profound thought:
Stop being a puddin’.